Guest Courtney Wilson on Adversarial Focus Groups

If you haven’t ever tried running an adversarial focus group, or any focus group for that matter, then you better start considering doing it to get the most out of deposition or trial.

We’ve pretty much covered a lot of topics on focus groups in our previous episodes. Today, we specifically delve into Adversarial Focus Groups. They are similar to mock trials. The difference is that an adversarial focus group requires continual constant voting. That way, you have the ability to watch the needle move in between different pieces of evidence and in different witnesses.  

An adversarial focus group is probably the most in-depth thing that you could possibly do to get feedback. You’re giving the participants the best of everything – from the plaintiff and defense, to everything you need to fine tune your case.

Joining us today is Courtney Wilson who runs a practice on the Gulf Coast in Mississippi, doing plaintiff’s personal injury lawsuits exclusively. In the last couple of years, their practice has narrowed down to doing mostly medical malpractice and products liability. Courtney works extremely hard with motions and briefing. She first came across focus groups back in 2016, and seeing the benefits of running them, she has been doing it since. 

In this episode, you will hear:

  • Adversarial focus groups vs. mock trials
  • What you get out of an adversarial focus group
  • How to mesh all the information together
  • An example of running a focus group and taking the case through trial

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Courtney Wilson

Courtney@tyneslawfirm.com 

Tynes Law Firm

Pascagoula, Mississippi

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How to Handle Client Resistance to Preparation

The client deposition has a significant amount of weight when it comes to deciding case value. However, one of the most common problems trials lawyers have is dealing with clients who resist preparing for deposition. 

These are clients who actively avoid giving time for preparation. Whether it’s because of their work schedule, family commitments, or they’re just too busy to dedicate more than 30 minutes with you. They just don’t seem to have any time other than the day of the deposition. 

There are also clients who subconsciously resist. They either show up with the kids for deposition prep, or they tell you they’ve had an emergency so they have to leave early. These are little subconscious things telling you that they’re not going to give you their full attention. But why? 

In this episode, we delve into why clients resist deposition preparation and how to tackle this resistance. This is a big deal because failing to prepare for deposition can potentially hurt or damage the case. Therefore, this is the way to the end. This is the necessary step we have to take right now because if we don’t take that step, the case value significantly plummets. 

In this episode, you will hear:

  • Why clients resist and why this is damaging to the case
  • Asking for time commitment
  • Some examples of disasters that happened due to client’s resistance
  • Resolving resistance in a call
  • Educating clients why they have to put effort in a case

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Do you have questions or a particularly challenging client preparation, email Elizabeth directly for assistance: elizabeth@larricklawfirm.com.

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Guest Michael Neff: Client Deposition Preparation in Premises Liability Cases

There are a lot of emotional landmines when it comes to premises liability cases. For instance, summary judgment is an issue in just about every premises liability case. A lot of lawyers have this mental shortcut that if they beat the summary judgment, then the case is going to settle. 

But in premises liability cases, damages are not enough. You’re going to need to navigate through that, especially because insurance companies will always try to look for opportunities where they can take advantage of them. 

Now, we can’t stress enough that the preparation of the clients for deposition is key in these cases. The client has to be prepared to tell his or her story clearly so there’s no ambiguity, no landmines, and no rabbit holes. There are no missing pieces to it. 

In this episode, Michael Neff joins us to talk about premises liability cases, which he has been doing for 15 years out of 30 years that he has been in practice. Michael emphasizes the lawyer’s responsibility to eliminate the legal risks where they can, and that means anticipating where problems may arise. Remember, the trial is not about the trial lawyer, but about what the jury wants to do for these parties.

In this episode, you will hear:

  • The importance of client preparation in premises cases
  • Factors that can derail premises liability cases
  • Minimizing additional harm to your client
  • Why damages are not enough in premises cases
  • The importance of working with a consultant
  • Being efficient in how you present your case

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https://www.premisesliability.org/

Email Beth@premisesliability.org  for a 1-year free membership to the National Association of Premises Liability Attorneys. 

Premises Liability: https://www.trialguides.com/products/premises-liability 

Advanced Premises Liability:  https://www.trialguides.com/products/advanced-premises-liability

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Organizing Direct Exam of the Client

Losing points with the jury is the last thing you want in your trial. At the end of the day, the jury will scrutinize your client more than anybody else in the room. So you want to bulletproof your client before they even get up on the stand. 

Compassion fatigue is not unusual in a world where we are constantly bombarded by horrific news. You should not repeat the same testimony over and over again. You risk wasting their time and losing their patience. 

Therefore, make sure you’re keeping things as organized as possible. Organize your topics, have bulletproof questions and be able to shift and pivot after the defense opening or other witness testimony. 

In this episode, learn how to organize the direct exam of the client. One of the first steps is to create a topic list. Your questions are more likely going to be based on this. It will navigate you through the process of preparing your client for when you put them on the stand. Also, this is a process that you can start very early and take care of the other more important things you need to do for the trial.

In this episode, you will hear:

  • Why you need to come up with a topic list
  • The point of view of the jury
  • Topics of liability and damages
  • Other witnesses and order of proof
  • Considering the possibility of compassion fatigue
  • Time management strategies
  • Preparing your exhibits

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Did I miss something for client direct exam? Do you have further questions? Send me an email: elizabeth@larricklawfirm.com

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Are You Holding Back Your Case?

Sometimes, we live with our cases for years, before we can find any kind of resolution either through settlement or trial. Now, this creates a tunnel vision where we can put these blinders on. There are blind spots everywhere that we just can’t see. And it gets worse when we block out any other theory or possibility. When we do this, we take on a whole new risk because we are holding the case back. 

A focus group is a laboratory. It’s to gather research. Sometimes, you’re going to hear good things, but you’re also digging in to hear the bad things about your case. Focus groups are going to give you fresh eyes in terms of approaching your case and getting you to a whole new emotional movement in your case. 

In this episode, I’m going to talk about some reasons lawyers would hold back a case and why you should start considering focus groups to help get you to the next level in solving problems. Ultimately, you have two options here – either stay in the blind spot or be open to learning and eliminate a huge risk of getting a zero on the case.

In this episode, you will hear:

  • How people make decisions based on emotions
  • What shapes the filter system of jurors
  • Finding the problems you can see and you can’t see
  • Creating multiple ways to solve the problem

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Lawyer Jargon & Client Confusion

As trial lawyers, we live in our trial lawyer space for several hours each day. It even follows us sometimes at night and wakes us up because our brains have been rewired in law school and even further into practice. Along the way, we’ve picked up legalese and legal jargon that we use when we get together with other lawyers or we talk to the court. That’s all fine when we’re in the lawyer world. 

But once we move into dealing with our clients, especially in litigation cases where we prepare them for deposition, mediation, or trial, we need to make sure we’re not using legalese. Otherwise, it leaves our clients confused and it eventually leads to mistakes in their depositions, or even at mediations when they’re asked to talk – when all that could have been prevented. Therefore, communication is key with our clients. 

In this episode, I’m going to share some common phrases that don’t really work well with our clients, as well as some alternative ways to better explain things to them. That way, they understand what we’re saying and they can move forward and follow advice. It does help to put in enough time and effort teaching people about depositions and organizing their stories in the most effective way possible.

In this episode, you will hear:

  • Common phrases lawyers use that confuse clients
  • Visualizing things for people
  • Alternative statements you can use with your clients
  • The fine line between explaining vs. oversharing

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Witness Prep Tool: Role-Playing

Once you’ve worked through mindset and organized things, the last piece of the puzzle in preparing for client deposition and trial preparation is role-playing.

As trial lawyers, we can do a better job at getting better results for the client. Most people haven’t experienced being in a deposition or trial before. And so, role-playing will give them a realistic experience before they step into the room or turn on that zoom to be asked questions under the spotlight. It helps remove first-time nerves, testing what is going to happen and what the reaction is going to be. 

Role-playing is definitely an important aspect that may dictate the trajectory of your case. In this episode, I’m laying out the keys to effective role-playing so that both you and the client can get the most out of it. Learn how to compact roleplay into a digestible, easy exercise for everyone involved as well as some tips or tricks to supercharge it.

In this episode, you will hear:

  • Another person to play as the opposing counsel
  • Using roleplay to tackle the difficult and challenging questions
  • Sticking with the exercise
  • Roleplaying with different lawyers on different days
  • Doing multiple rounds and checking in with the client in-between the rounds
  • Ways to supercharge the roleplay

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Need help crafting role play questions? Have a question about client testimony prep? Feel free to email me: elizabeth@larricklawfirm.com 

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Interview with Ryan Squires About His Record-Setting Verdict

We’re joined by Ryan Squires, a partner at Scott, Douglass & McConnico. He is an experienced trial lawyer with many trials under his belt. In this episode, he talks about one specific trial he did in Austin in July 2021. 

It was a record-setting verdict in that the jury awarded them worth $40 million in damages and money, something they haven’t seen in the last 20 years in terms of a private plaintiff in Austin. It also answered certain questions in a manner that allowed the judge to also give them a constructive trust that included real estate and Bitcoin. 

To give you a brief overview, this was a father versus son case concerning cryptocurrency and some real estate controlled by the son, but those have been traced back to the seed money provided by the father. 

Today, Ryan shares what went behind the scenes in preparing for this trial from how they’ve set up the focus groups to gathering evidence and witness preparation.

In this episode, you will hear:

  • How they’ve set up focus groups for trial preparation
  • Using deposition testimony in court as evidence
  • The cross-examination preparation
  • COVID protocols observed in the courtroom
  • The importance of having time limitations for the witnesses
  • The benefits of focus groups in this case
  • The challenges in gathering evidence

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To learn more about Ryan Squires and his practice please visit: https://www.scottdoug.com/attorneys/ryan-squires/ 

If you’d like to learn more about the jury verdict we discussed in this episode, you can go here: https://www.scottdoug.com/sdm-obtains-record-setting-verdict-in-bitcoin-case/

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FAQ: Where Do You Recruit Participants for Focus Groups?

One of the common challenges lawyers have when it comes to running focus groups is where to find the participants. And if they do find them, how do they get them to respond to what they’re putting out there. 

Therefore, part of the success of focus groups lies in the recruiting process. You want to have an ample amount of people to choose from. You want participants that mirror the jurors, and not necessarily perfectly mirror your community. 

Right off the cuff, I use Facebook and Craigslist to advertise for focus group participants. But where exactly do you post the ad? And what would be the most efficient way to do that? In this episode, we’re going to talk about how you can set up a system for recruiting focus group participants so you can start getting more people to apply. 

In this episode, you will hear:

  • How much to pay people for focus groups and how to pay them
  • Choosing the best day and time for running focus groups
  • How to make the process easy for people to apply
  • Posting Craigslist ads and setting up a Facebook business page
  • Creating a masterlist for the participants

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www.advantagefocusgroups.com 

Have a question about recruiting and advertising for focus groups? Email me! elizabeth@larricklawfirm.com   

You can revisit Episode 20 for more information on setting up your own focus groups:

https://larricklawfirm.com/do-it-yourself-virtual-focus-groups-pt-2/

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My Point of View: When a Client Shares Their Damages

In this episode, I am sharing my point of view on a hotly debated topic in client preparation – when should a client share their damages, stories, examples, and feelings? Should they be in a deposition? Or should those be held until trial?

The old-school way of thinking would be to save it for trial. Many lawyers encourage clients to say as little as possible or to not offer any other information besides a yes or a no. For them, silence is a tactic, so they don’t explain anything. 

And I truly believe the opposite of that. I think the deposition is the place to share and that we should prepare our clients to share in their depositions. The deposition is the biggest place for the client to play their role in the case and decisions are made based on things in depositions. That’s the way that it works so we should not ignore the opportunity it gives you.

In this episode, you will hear:

  • It takes so much longer to get to trial (most cases never even get to trial).
  • What happens when the deposition of the client goes into the file evaluation
  • What happens in a deposition is different from what happens in a trial 
  • The black and white testimony in the deposition can’t be ignored.
  • Getting a full uninterrupted opportunity during deposition

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